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so

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what is up everybody

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um happy monday

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hope the week is starting pretty well

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for you

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um it's valentine's day so

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[Laughter]

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to all of you so thanks everybody for

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being here we got uh lord bass what is

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up

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um mr josh hello sir

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lionel f what's happening for whatever

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reason i always think of lionel richie

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when i see you

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um i have no idea

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if you are even close

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to who that person is

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as far as similarities

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so

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pretty weird uh witness citizen what's

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up uh dieselgirl what's happening you're

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hooked to the ufo podcast

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k42d is as well

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that's good

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you know i appreciate that

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i appreciate that and thank you so much

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for the nice comment um regarding my

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appearance on spaced out radio i do

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appreciate that that was a great time

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so thank you to them for inviting me and

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let me talk i talked about some things

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that i don't usually get into so

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um if you're interested you should go

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check that out

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it was a good time

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uh joe's what's happening i'm surprised

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you're awake

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but i'll take it

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i'm glad you are

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so

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toby what's happening oh that was josh

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again oops sorry

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toby what's happening

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uh lord bass everybody um if i missed

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you sorry about that but i appreciate

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everybody being here

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um

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march 2nd

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with lou elizondo so that should be

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pretty cool

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that should be pretty good um he hasn't

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it's been a while

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since he's been on so i'm looking

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forward to that catching up and we're

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gonna have

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the best dude ever

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uh wednesday friend mr j christopher

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king co-hosting that one so

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it's gonna be

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fan freakin tastic

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and i hope

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that you all can join

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lc what's up i don't know if you're new

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here but if you are i appreciate it

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welcome

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i hope you have a good time

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um

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if you're watching make sure you log in

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subscribe uh hit that thumbs up button

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um because if it turns out you don't

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like it you can always reverse course

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and on thumbs up

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on thumbs up you know how that goes so

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if you have to you can do that

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hopefully a circumstance that will

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um show up but you never know

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ever know i could say something that

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i've done it before

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so what i wanted to do today it was

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of dissipate and maybe you kind of

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you know it's about time we get back

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as we're supposed to get another one in

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lot of stuff so you know we'll try to

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you know like i'm the boss and somebody

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correcting what i see as um

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a black vault saying that the air force

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completely accurate because we can see

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here it's the uap task force and the

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aviation which is not the air force

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they are or were

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but this is odni national intelligence

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to the report as many of you know and

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we went over many old blue book cases

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where dia got some information also we

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know fbi did and are always interesting

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because they have all the satellites

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information around the world

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uh like our spy satellites nga

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that's something john ramirez has told

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about i've sent an avoid to them they

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have not responded i checked in they

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have not responded to that either

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so i'm not holding my breath

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uh nsa uh air force army navy

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if you're not familiar with them but

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they do uh advanced research projects

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like they make tiny little like drones

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and you'll find like the brain implant

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paperwork

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drawn up by them no joke but you know

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they actually put that together

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which is great um because you know

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if you just look at a flight tracker

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your flight radar tracker pop that up

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that's all faa all those planes

294
00:13:08,790 --> 00:13:06,959
basically uh noaa that's great uh oceans

295
00:13:10,790 --> 00:13:08,800
you know all that stuff

296
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um

297
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they actually put together a really

298
00:13:15,829 --> 00:13:13,760
fantastic report that you can find in

299
00:13:17,269 --> 00:13:15,839
the cia foyer reading room

300
00:13:20,310 --> 00:13:17,279
um on

301
00:13:21,990 --> 00:13:20,320
the lakenheath um ufo sighting and

302
00:13:24,710 --> 00:13:22,000
there's another one that they did too

303
00:13:27,190 --> 00:13:24,720
and probably more but those i could only

304
00:13:28,230 --> 00:13:27,200
find two

305
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and

306
00:13:33,110 --> 00:13:30,880
who else we got they put nga in there

307
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twice which is interesting

308
00:13:37,190 --> 00:13:35,760
that's a little sloppy isn't it

309
00:13:39,509 --> 00:13:37,200
i just noticed that

310
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got nga here

311
00:13:45,030 --> 00:13:41,920
and nga here

312
00:13:46,470 --> 00:13:45,040
unless they're two different ngas

313
00:13:49,189 --> 00:13:46,480
but

314
00:13:52,150 --> 00:13:49,199
uh so that seems a little sloppy odie

315
00:13:54,870 --> 00:13:52,160
and i um i tried to look and i am

316
00:13:57,910 --> 00:13:54,880
emerging in disruptive technology up

317
00:14:00,069 --> 00:13:57,920
um couldn't find a a whole lot on

318
00:14:03,269 --> 00:14:00,079
what that organization does but you know

319
00:14:04,949 --> 00:14:03,279
i'm assuming it's within the name there

320
00:14:07,110 --> 00:14:04,959
looking at emerging and disruptive

321
00:14:09,110 --> 00:14:07,120
technology so

322
00:14:10,790 --> 00:14:09,120
um national counter intelligence and

323
00:14:12,629 --> 00:14:10,800
security center and national

324
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intelligence council

325
00:14:21,189 --> 00:14:19,030
and

326
00:14:24,389 --> 00:14:21,199
we know what the cia does right you

327
00:14:26,550 --> 00:14:24,399
could say they have no um

328
00:14:30,870 --> 00:14:26,560
you know they can't really do much on

329
00:14:33,189 --> 00:14:30,880
american soil but can the nro

330
00:14:33,580 --> 00:14:33,199
i doubt it so

331
00:14:35,430 --> 00:14:33,590
um

332
00:14:36,790 --> 00:14:35,440
[Music]

333
00:14:39,430 --> 00:14:36,800
and i would think that those two are

334
00:14:42,389 --> 00:14:39,440
both kind of closely linked so why is

335
00:14:44,710 --> 00:14:42,399
the cia not mentioned on here

336
00:14:47,030 --> 00:14:44,720
um i'm not sure

337
00:14:51,110 --> 00:14:47,040
i mean obviously i'm not sure but it is

338
00:14:55,990 --> 00:14:52,949
uh these assumptions these assumptions

339
00:14:57,590 --> 00:14:56,000
here are important and we'll see why as

340
00:14:59,750 --> 00:14:57,600
we go through various forms of sensors

341
00:15:00,949 --> 00:14:59,760
that register uap generally operate

342
00:15:01,910 --> 00:15:00,959
correctly

343
00:15:04,150 --> 00:15:01,920
right

344
00:15:06,389 --> 00:15:04,160
they generally operate correctly and

345
00:15:09,750 --> 00:15:06,399
capture enough real data to allow

346
00:15:12,310 --> 00:15:09,760
initial assessments

347
00:15:13,750 --> 00:15:12,320
but some uap may be attributable to

348
00:15:16,790 --> 00:15:13,760
sensor anomalies

349
00:15:19,990 --> 00:15:16,800
right there in and of itself

350
00:15:21,670 --> 00:15:20,000
is a conflict so they generally operate

351
00:15:24,470 --> 00:15:21,680
correctly and capture enough real data

352
00:15:30,790 --> 00:15:27,829
sometimes it may be uap

353
00:15:31,829 --> 00:15:30,800
maybe attributable sensor anomalies

354
00:15:35,269 --> 00:15:31,839
doesn't

355
00:15:39,269 --> 00:15:37,430
um so i'm just going to keep going

356
00:15:42,470 --> 00:15:39,279
through all this stuff

357
00:15:44,069 --> 00:15:42,480
i see some some new people have shown in

358
00:15:47,910 --> 00:15:44,079
here we got robert

359
00:15:48,870 --> 00:15:47,920
uh paranormal pixies eyes to disguise

360
00:15:51,990 --> 00:15:48,880
um

361
00:15:53,030 --> 00:15:52,000
rachel that ufo lady

362
00:15:57,269 --> 00:15:53,040
no

363
00:15:59,269 --> 00:15:57,279
sorry about that but i see you remember

364
00:16:01,430 --> 00:15:59,279
now and i appreciate that

365
00:16:02,790 --> 00:16:01,440
um after i get through it if you guys

366
00:16:06,310 --> 00:16:02,800
want to throw me some questions feel

367
00:16:09,509 --> 00:16:08,069
and i don't want to spend a whole lot of

368
00:16:12,550 --> 00:16:09,519
time on it just really that the

369
00:16:14,790 --> 00:16:12,560
highlighted aspects i i suppose

370
00:16:16,550 --> 00:16:14,800
um but again i want to go through this

371
00:16:19,110 --> 00:16:16,560
because we're supposed to get one in

372
00:16:21,430 --> 00:16:19,120
october so if we know what they did last

373
00:16:24,069 --> 00:16:21,440
time and kind of see

374
00:16:26,389 --> 00:16:24,079
we can see what to expect as you know

375
00:16:30,470 --> 00:16:26,399
they pretty much put it in writing uh

376
00:16:33,030 --> 00:16:31,670
so here

377
00:16:36,230 --> 00:16:33,040
the limited amount of high quality

378
00:16:38,310 --> 00:16:36,240
reporting on uap hampers our ability to

379
00:16:43,350 --> 00:16:38,320
draw from conclusions about the nature

380
00:16:47,509 --> 00:16:45,189
they considered a range of information

381
00:16:49,350 --> 00:16:47,519
on uap described in u.s military and ic

382
00:16:51,350 --> 00:16:49,360
intelligence community reporting but

383
00:16:53,990 --> 00:16:51,360
because the reporting lacks sufficient

384
00:16:55,670 --> 00:16:54,000
uh specificity ultimately recognized

385
00:16:56,870 --> 00:16:55,680
that a unique tailored reporting process

386
00:16:59,189 --> 00:16:56,880
was required

387
00:17:01,350 --> 00:16:59,199
as a result the task force concentrated

388
00:17:04,470 --> 00:17:01,360
its review on reports that occurred

389
00:17:07,429 --> 00:17:04,480
between 2004 and 2021 the majority of

390
00:17:08,630 --> 00:17:07,439
which are a result of this new tailored

391
00:17:11,029 --> 00:17:08,640
process

392
00:17:11,949 --> 00:17:11,039
okay so

393
00:17:13,510 --> 00:17:11,959
if it's

394
00:17:15,429 --> 00:17:13,520
2004

395
00:17:17,590 --> 00:17:15,439
through 2021

396
00:17:20,150 --> 00:17:17,600
in the majority of which are the result

397
00:17:21,029 --> 00:17:20,160
of a new tailored process

398
00:17:23,110 --> 00:17:21,039
um

399
00:17:25,829 --> 00:17:23,120
i think it goes without saying right

400
00:17:27,510 --> 00:17:25,839
that the majority of these aren't going

401
00:17:29,750 --> 00:17:27,520
to be

402
00:17:33,029 --> 00:17:29,760
from 2004 and i think we've heard that

403
00:17:35,190 --> 00:17:33,039
2019 and on was kind of most of them but

404
00:17:38,150 --> 00:17:35,200
um that's interesting right that's a

405
00:17:39,669 --> 00:17:38,160
huge amount of years here

406
00:17:41,669 --> 00:17:39,679
and then they're saying the majority are

407
00:17:44,310 --> 00:17:41,679
a new taylor process so

408
00:17:47,110 --> 00:17:44,320
how many did you pick from 2004 do we

409
00:17:48,870 --> 00:17:47,120
find out in this report we'll see

410
00:17:51,190 --> 00:17:48,880
and why couldn't you be more specific

411
00:17:53,510 --> 00:17:51,200
with what those were

412
00:17:58,230 --> 00:17:53,520
and why those worked

413
00:18:02,789 --> 00:18:00,710
most of the uap reported probably

414
00:18:04,950 --> 00:18:02,799
do represent physical objects given that

415
00:18:09,110 --> 00:18:04,960
a majority of uap were registered across

416
00:18:11,669 --> 00:18:09,120
multiple sensors to include radar

417
00:18:14,150 --> 00:18:11,679
visual observation okay

418
00:18:17,830 --> 00:18:14,160
so

419
00:18:19,430 --> 00:18:17,840
go over those reports from blue book

420
00:18:24,710 --> 00:18:19,440
constantly where there's visual

421
00:18:29,909 --> 00:18:26,310
and

422
00:18:33,190 --> 00:18:31,190
they're saying

423
00:18:35,190 --> 00:18:33,200
they probably do represent a physical

424
00:18:37,270 --> 00:18:35,200
physical objects

425
00:18:39,270 --> 00:18:37,280
given that a majority of the uap were

426
00:18:44,950 --> 00:18:39,280
registered across all these multiple

427
00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:51,510
and we go back to what we just looked at

428
00:18:54,870 --> 00:18:52,950
which is

429
00:18:57,270 --> 00:18:54,880
various forms of sensors that register

430
00:18:59,029 --> 00:18:57,280
uap generally operate correctly

431
00:19:05,270 --> 00:18:59,039
but some may be attributable to the

432
00:19:10,870 --> 00:19:06,789
and i think there's going to be more on

433
00:19:15,350 --> 00:19:12,390
because they're back and forth with the

434
00:19:16,789 --> 00:19:15,360
sensor stuff they'll say it's

435
00:19:18,070 --> 00:19:16,799
yeah we'll get we'll get to that so

436
00:19:19,750 --> 00:19:18,080
that's in the following pages but

437
00:19:21,510 --> 00:19:19,760
remember those things

438
00:19:23,750 --> 00:19:21,520
um and then here we have there are

439
00:19:26,390 --> 00:19:23,760
probably multiple types of uap requiring

440
00:19:28,310 --> 00:19:26,400
different explanations

441
00:19:29,750 --> 00:19:28,320
so i put yeah conflicts with assumptions

442
00:19:32,630 --> 00:19:29,760
okay

443
00:19:34,950 --> 00:19:32,640
sorry five potential categories clutter

444
00:19:37,190 --> 00:19:34,960
atmospheric phenomenon us government or

445
00:19:39,029 --> 00:19:37,200
u.s industrial developmental programs

446
00:19:41,190 --> 00:19:39,039
foreign adversary systems and a

447
00:19:45,909 --> 00:19:41,200
catch-all other bin

448
00:19:51,110 --> 00:19:47,830
we'll get to that i guess i'm gonna i'm

449
00:19:56,390 --> 00:19:54,390
uap clearly poses safety flight risk yep

450
00:19:58,310 --> 00:19:56,400
consistent consolidation of reports from

451
00:20:01,110 --> 00:19:58,320
across the federal government

452
00:20:05,190 --> 00:20:01,120
yep we know that you actually said that

453
00:20:12,310 --> 00:20:08,230
and a majority of your reports

454
00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:17,909
available reporting largely inconclusive

455
00:20:22,070 --> 00:20:20,310
all right so no standardized reporting

456
00:20:24,470 --> 00:20:22,080
mechanism existed until the navy

457
00:20:27,270 --> 00:20:24,480
established one in 2019. all right so

458
00:20:29,510 --> 00:20:27,280
what we're all so why are they from 2004

459
00:20:31,029 --> 00:20:29,520
to 2020

460
00:20:33,110 --> 00:20:31,039
right so what

461
00:20:35,190 --> 00:20:33,120
came from before 2019 and why were those

462
00:20:40,070 --> 00:20:35,200
good enough air force subsequently

463
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:45,909
so the air force just adopted it in 2020

464
00:20:52,390 --> 00:20:49,270
but the navy established it in 2019 and

465
00:20:54,630 --> 00:20:52,400
as we find out all these reports are

466
00:20:56,549 --> 00:20:54,640
from the navy

467
00:20:57,669 --> 00:20:56,559
but it remains limited to u.s government

468
00:20:59,590 --> 00:20:57,679
reporting

469
00:21:01,430 --> 00:20:59,600
what do you even mean

470
00:21:05,190 --> 00:21:01,440
it's from the navy

471
00:21:10,149 --> 00:21:07,029
keep that in mind chris mellon

472
00:21:12,789 --> 00:21:10,159
uh was just recently saying that

473
00:21:17,110 --> 00:21:12,799
how these are all

474
00:21:23,029 --> 00:21:20,789
and they say that later in this report

475
00:21:24,470 --> 00:21:23,039
after considering the information the

476
00:21:27,190 --> 00:21:24,480
task force focused on reports that

477
00:21:28,830 --> 00:21:27,200
involved uap largely witnessed firsthand

478
00:21:31,110 --> 00:21:28,840
by military

479
00:21:35,750 --> 00:21:31,120
aviators here again

480
00:21:37,669 --> 00:21:35,760
why don't they just put navy aviators

481
00:21:40,789 --> 00:21:37,679
and that were collected from systems we

482
00:21:42,710 --> 00:21:40,799
considered to be reliable okay so

483
00:21:47,430 --> 00:21:42,720
they're saying their sensors again are

484
00:21:51,190 --> 00:21:48,870
where they're saying their senses are

485
00:21:52,710 --> 00:21:51,200
reliable

486
00:21:56,390 --> 00:21:52,720
and yet

487
00:22:01,110 --> 00:21:59,190
you know explain any uap but one it's a

488
00:22:04,070 --> 00:22:01,120
deflating balloon which i don't think

489
00:22:05,990 --> 00:22:04,080
you probably need sensors for even

490
00:22:08,470 --> 00:22:06,000
we were able to identify one reported

491
00:22:11,590 --> 00:22:08,480
uap with high confidence in the deflated

492
00:22:14,149 --> 00:22:11,600
balloon high confidence

493
00:22:17,990 --> 00:22:14,159
that balloon deflated

494
00:22:19,510 --> 00:22:18,000
okay so 144 reports originated from usg

495
00:22:21,830 --> 00:22:19,520
sources

496
00:22:23,830 --> 00:22:21,840
okay so again

497
00:22:26,470 --> 00:22:23,840
why don't they just put navy

498
00:22:29,110 --> 00:22:26,480
of these 80 reports involved observation

499
00:22:31,830 --> 00:22:29,120
with multiple sensors which you say are

500
00:22:35,270 --> 00:22:33,110
and reliable

501
00:22:37,350 --> 00:22:35,280
most reports described uap as objects

502
00:22:40,470 --> 00:22:37,360
that interrupted pre-planned training or

503
00:22:42,789 --> 00:22:40,480
other military so here is where

504
00:22:45,110 --> 00:22:42,799
i put this most seems all

505
00:22:49,430 --> 00:22:45,120
well seems to be all

506
00:22:54,549 --> 00:22:51,909
right limited data leaves most uap

507
00:22:56,950 --> 00:22:54,559
unexplained they're all unexplained but

508
00:22:59,669 --> 00:22:58,149
so

509
00:23:02,230 --> 00:22:59,679
which kind of makes me think too why

510
00:23:06,549 --> 00:23:02,240
even put the one in there

511
00:23:06,559 --> 00:23:10,149
i don't know

512
00:23:14,950 --> 00:23:12,470
so if that's how they use the word most

513
00:23:17,190 --> 00:23:14,960
you would think that pretty much all

514
00:23:18,950 --> 00:23:17,200
of the uap are objects that interrupted

515
00:23:20,390 --> 00:23:18,960
pre-planned training or other military

516
00:23:22,310 --> 00:23:20,400
activity

517
00:23:25,750 --> 00:23:22,320
that's an assumption though the most

518
00:23:31,750 --> 00:23:29,270
um and then this goes into stigmas

519
00:23:33,510 --> 00:23:31,760
such as how to appropriately filter out

520
00:23:35,029 --> 00:23:33,520
radar clutter ensure safety flight for

521
00:23:38,310 --> 00:23:35,039
military and civilian aircraft are

522
00:23:39,110 --> 00:23:38,320
long-standing in the aviation community

523
00:23:39,990 --> 00:23:39,120
um

524
00:23:42,310 --> 00:23:40,000
we

525
00:23:44,710 --> 00:23:42,320
i've learned definitely that there's so

526
00:23:48,950 --> 00:23:44,720
many things at least in the past that

527
00:23:53,510 --> 00:23:48,960
radar has been confused by

528
00:23:55,830 --> 00:23:53,520
um they've been something called angels

529
00:23:57,510 --> 00:23:55,840
yes they're called angels which are like

530
00:24:00,230 --> 00:23:57,520
birds and bugs

531
00:24:02,549 --> 00:24:00,240
there's uh chaff which are basically

532
00:24:04,950 --> 00:24:02,559
like metal flakes dropped

533
00:24:07,590 --> 00:24:04,960
around a plane to confuse the radar

534
00:24:09,110 --> 00:24:07,600
um astronomical things can actually sit

535
00:24:09,370 --> 00:24:09,120
off the radar

536
00:24:10,870 --> 00:24:09,380
um

537
00:24:13,510 --> 00:24:10,880
[Music]

538
00:24:18,470 --> 00:24:13,520
some geometric uh geomagnetic like

539
00:24:20,390 --> 00:24:18,480
anomalies can set off radar um

540
00:24:23,029 --> 00:24:20,400
other planes

541
00:24:26,149 --> 00:24:23,039
sometimes um i read one report where the

542
00:24:29,510 --> 00:24:26,159
pilot was pretty sure his flight partner

543
00:24:31,590 --> 00:24:29,520
was setting off his radar because it was

544
00:24:34,390 --> 00:24:31,600
the ping was exactly where the person

545
00:24:39,350 --> 00:24:36,870
uh lightning

546
00:24:41,590 --> 00:24:39,360
yep beams across and interfere with each

547
00:24:43,510 --> 00:24:41,600
other all that stuff and this is stuff

548
00:24:44,789 --> 00:24:43,520
that we've figured out

549
00:24:49,430 --> 00:24:44,799
from

550
00:24:50,950 --> 00:24:49,440
and 50s

551
00:24:53,990 --> 00:24:50,960
so the only thing i would have to say

552
00:24:56,950 --> 00:24:54,000
here about this is that

553
00:25:00,070 --> 00:24:58,470
i mean i guess i have to believe but i

554
00:25:02,070 --> 00:25:00,080
can't believe that they haven't figured

555
00:25:04,870 --> 00:25:02,080
all that stuff out by now

556
00:25:08,470 --> 00:25:07,110
because they're constantly working on or

557
00:25:10,870 --> 00:25:08,480
they were at least

558
00:25:11,750 --> 00:25:10,880
i'm sure they still still are trying to

559
00:25:16,710 --> 00:25:11,760
better

560
00:25:20,310 --> 00:25:18,549
so sensor vantage points and the numbers

561
00:25:21,669 --> 00:25:20,320
of sensors concurrently observing an

562
00:25:24,149 --> 00:25:21,679
object play substantial roles in

563
00:25:26,470 --> 00:25:24,159
distinguishing uap from known objects

564
00:25:27,990 --> 00:25:26,480
and determining whether uap demonstrates

565
00:25:29,590 --> 00:25:28,000
breakthrough aerospace capabilities

566
00:25:31,190 --> 00:25:29,600
optical sensors have the benefit of

567
00:25:32,630 --> 00:25:31,200
providing some insight into relative

568
00:25:34,950 --> 00:25:32,640
size shape and structures radio

569
00:25:39,590 --> 00:25:34,960
frequency sensors provide more accurate

570
00:25:45,190 --> 00:25:43,190
well they do say that

571
00:25:46,549 --> 00:25:45,200
right here

572
00:25:48,230 --> 00:25:46,559
that's why i said the sensors are

573
00:25:50,870 --> 00:25:48,240
important that we talked about earlier

574
00:25:55,510 --> 00:25:50,880
ezra the those sensors are not generally

575
00:25:58,950 --> 00:25:56,390
so

576
00:26:01,190 --> 00:25:58,960
if they're not suited for uap how do you

577
00:26:07,430 --> 00:26:01,200
know they play a substantial role in

578
00:26:11,990 --> 00:26:10,549
i mean am i wrong in thinking that

579
00:26:13,190 --> 00:26:12,000
is it wrong

580
00:26:15,430 --> 00:26:13,200
but

581
00:26:20,390 --> 00:26:15,440
i mean

582
00:26:26,149 --> 00:26:22,470
so if they're not generally suited for

583
00:26:27,830 --> 00:26:26,159
identifying uap and then you say

584
00:26:30,549 --> 00:26:27,840
that they play a substantial role in

585
00:26:36,630 --> 00:26:30,559
distinguishing uap from known objects

586
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:41,269
somebody tell me if that's just me

587
00:26:41,279 --> 00:26:46,630
that's uh very conflicting

588
00:26:53,830 --> 00:26:50,149
ah thank you robert very good

589
00:26:57,029 --> 00:26:53,840
thank you um all right so

590
00:27:00,310 --> 00:26:57,039
but some potential patterns do emerge

591
00:27:03,510 --> 00:27:00,320
okay so again the sensors that aren't

592
00:27:04,310 --> 00:27:03,520
generally suited to distinguish uap

593
00:27:06,950 --> 00:27:04,320
um

594
00:27:09,029 --> 00:27:06,960
notice some patterns

595
00:27:11,750 --> 00:27:09,039
uh some clustering of uap observations

596
00:27:12,950 --> 00:27:11,760
regarding shape size and particular

597
00:27:16,950 --> 00:27:12,960
propulsion

598
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,630
you see that

599
00:27:25,430 --> 00:27:21,830
but what you don't see in this

600
00:27:27,350 --> 00:27:25,440
preliminary assessment is anything

601
00:27:28,549 --> 00:27:27,360
about these

602
00:27:31,190 --> 00:27:28,559
patterns

603
00:27:33,190 --> 00:27:31,200
as far as

604
00:27:36,710 --> 00:27:33,200
shape

605
00:27:40,630 --> 00:27:38,310
you know they go into

606
00:27:42,549 --> 00:27:40,640
some saying that um they don't show a

607
00:27:43,750 --> 00:27:42,559
sign of repulsion

608
00:27:45,350 --> 00:27:43,760
that's one

609
00:27:48,470 --> 00:27:45,360
of the patterns but we don't get

610
00:27:50,470 --> 00:27:48,480
anything on shape or the size

611
00:27:54,710 --> 00:27:50,480
or the clustering

612
00:28:02,070 --> 00:27:58,710
this reminds me of the triangle pyramid

613
00:28:03,830 --> 00:28:02,080
uap sighting

614
00:28:06,230 --> 00:28:03,840
of the video that mr jeremy corbell

615
00:28:08,230 --> 00:28:06,240
released clustering of uap observations

616
00:28:11,909 --> 00:28:08,240
regarding shape

617
00:28:14,630 --> 00:28:11,919
and size well that would be one

618
00:28:17,190 --> 00:28:14,640
on the 2019 socal

619
00:28:19,990 --> 00:28:17,200
you know incident debatey wrote this big

620
00:28:23,190 --> 00:28:20,000
thing on it swarms of them

621
00:28:25,029 --> 00:28:23,200
that would be a cluster of uap

622
00:28:28,310 --> 00:28:25,039
although in the deck logs

623
00:28:30,870 --> 00:28:28,320
they wrote uav and that's being used big

624
00:28:33,430 --> 00:28:30,880
time by people to debunk

625
00:28:36,389 --> 00:28:33,440
um the possibility of those being ufos

626
00:28:39,669 --> 00:28:36,399
or uaps which you know i don't have

627
00:28:42,870 --> 00:28:41,190
i don't have anything in the game for

628
00:28:44,950 --> 00:28:42,880
that you know i don't

629
00:28:48,230 --> 00:28:44,960
i'm not going to say it's uap or uav

630
00:28:50,549 --> 00:28:48,240
like it is whatever it is whatever i

631
00:28:52,149 --> 00:28:50,559
want to say you know i don't have any

632
00:28:55,350 --> 00:28:52,159
information enough

633
00:28:59,990 --> 00:28:55,360
to say um with clarity

634
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:05,269
you know but here

635
00:29:07,669 --> 00:29:06,870
and i'm not saying they're describing

636
00:29:19,590 --> 00:29:07,679
that

637
00:29:21,590 --> 00:29:19,600
may result from a collection bias as a

638
00:29:23,669 --> 00:29:21,600
result of focused attention greater

639
00:29:27,110 --> 00:29:23,679
numbers of latest generation sensors

640
00:29:31,110 --> 00:29:27,120
that aren't designed for uap

641
00:29:35,110 --> 00:29:32,710
and a handful of uap appear to

642
00:29:40,789 --> 00:29:35,120
demonstrate advanced technology

643
00:29:44,630 --> 00:29:42,389
uap movement patterns or flight

644
00:29:47,029 --> 00:29:44,640
characteristics

645
00:29:48,870 --> 00:29:47,039
move at considerable speed stationary

646
00:29:50,549 --> 00:29:48,880
and winds aloft move against the wind

647
00:29:52,389 --> 00:29:50,559
maneuver abruptly

648
00:29:54,230 --> 00:29:52,399
without discernible means of propulsion

649
00:29:56,470 --> 00:29:54,240
in a small number of cases military

650
00:29:58,789 --> 00:29:56,480
aircraft systems process radio frequency

651
00:30:00,070 --> 00:29:58,799
energy associated with uap sightings

652
00:30:02,310 --> 00:30:00,080
this

653
00:30:03,590 --> 00:30:02,320
so far

654
00:30:06,830 --> 00:30:03,600
fits

655
00:30:11,350 --> 00:30:06,840
with what we know of as ufo sightings

656
00:30:15,190 --> 00:30:13,269
you know when we read these on the show

657
00:30:19,029 --> 00:30:15,200
even though i mean

658
00:30:21,269 --> 00:30:19,039
obviously they're mostly old reports

659
00:30:24,149 --> 00:30:21,279
even old videos and and lots of

660
00:30:26,149 --> 00:30:24,159
descriptions moving against the wind

661
00:30:28,950 --> 00:30:26,159
maneuvering abruptly

662
00:30:32,070 --> 00:30:28,960
considerable speed

663
00:30:36,870 --> 00:30:32,080
discernible means of propulsion

664
00:30:40,149 --> 00:30:38,230
um

665
00:30:42,230 --> 00:30:40,159
further analysis to determine if

666
00:30:43,510 --> 00:30:42,240
breakthrough technologies were

667
00:30:48,830 --> 00:30:43,520
demonstrated

668
00:30:53,909 --> 00:30:50,470
is

669
00:30:56,950 --> 00:30:55,750
you know right up here the uap appeared

670
00:30:58,950 --> 00:30:56,960
to remain stationary all that

671
00:31:01,110 --> 00:30:58,960
considerable speeds ceremonies of

672
00:31:02,870 --> 00:31:01,120
propulsion wouldn't that be breakthrough

673
00:31:05,509 --> 00:31:02,880
technology

674
00:31:07,990 --> 00:31:05,519
would further analysis do you have to do

675
00:31:11,350 --> 00:31:08,000
to determine if like how could that not

676
00:31:14,870 --> 00:31:11,360
be breakthrough technology

677
00:31:18,389 --> 00:31:16,470
robert brings up a good point does that

678
00:31:20,070 --> 00:31:18,399
mean that other sensors

679
00:31:30,549 --> 00:31:20,080
were designed to look for uap

680
00:31:35,750 --> 00:31:32,710
that's true that would be a great uh

681
00:31:38,470 --> 00:31:35,760
like court of law question

682
00:31:39,430 --> 00:31:38,480
oh you must mean that some were designed

683
00:31:42,389 --> 00:31:39,440
for that

684
00:31:46,389 --> 00:31:42,399
so here we go uh uap probably a lack of

685
00:31:50,710 --> 00:31:48,870
again like with all this stuff i just

686
00:31:53,909 --> 00:31:50,720
don't really understand it since they

687
00:31:58,630 --> 00:31:55,750
any of them

688
00:32:01,830 --> 00:32:00,230
so how do you know they lack a single

689
00:32:03,430 --> 00:32:01,840
explanation if you don't know what any

690
00:32:05,990 --> 00:32:03,440
of them are

691
00:32:08,389 --> 00:32:06,000
some uap may be technologies deployed by

692
00:32:12,950 --> 00:32:08,399
china russia another nation

693
00:32:16,070 --> 00:32:14,870
so they definitely put that in here

694
00:32:18,149 --> 00:32:16,080
right

695
00:32:22,230 --> 00:32:18,159
and later they do say

696
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:26,950
to tie it to anybody

697
00:32:31,110 --> 00:32:28,389
but they definitely put

698
00:32:39,509 --> 00:32:31,120
the option in here for

699
00:32:44,389 --> 00:32:42,310
but here it it's here uap incidents are

700
00:32:47,029 --> 00:32:44,399
resolved they will fall into one of the

701
00:32:49,509 --> 00:32:47,039
five potential airborne clutter

702
00:32:51,590 --> 00:32:49,519
then it says

703
00:32:54,149 --> 00:32:51,600
uh foreign adversary systems and a catch

704
00:32:55,990 --> 00:32:54,159
all other bin with the exception of the

705
00:32:57,669 --> 00:32:56,000
one instance where we determined with

706
00:32:59,190 --> 00:32:57,679
high confidence that the

707
00:33:05,029 --> 00:32:59,200
uap

708
00:33:07,430 --> 00:33:05,039
specifically a deflating balloon so then

709
00:33:08,710 --> 00:33:07,440
if they're using one of these 144

710
00:33:11,750 --> 00:33:08,720
reports

711
00:33:13,830 --> 00:33:11,760
and describing all these

712
00:33:15,669 --> 00:33:13,840
and saying that they accept this one we

713
00:33:19,590 --> 00:33:15,679
put the other bin

714
00:33:25,509 --> 00:33:23,269
they would be saying would could fit

715
00:33:27,509 --> 00:33:25,519
any of these other categories some of

716
00:33:34,149 --> 00:33:27,519
which are foreign adversary systems and

717
00:33:37,590 --> 00:33:35,909
although most of the uap described in

718
00:33:39,590 --> 00:33:37,600
our dataset probably remain unidentified

719
00:33:42,149 --> 00:33:39,600
due to limited data or challenges to

720
00:33:44,630 --> 00:33:42,159
collection processing or analysis we

721
00:33:46,230 --> 00:33:44,640
may require scientific knowledge to

722
00:33:47,990 --> 00:33:46,240
successfully collect on analyze and

723
00:33:49,830 --> 00:33:48,000
characterize some of them

724
00:33:51,110 --> 00:33:49,840
we would group such objects in this

725
00:33:53,350 --> 00:33:51,120
category

726
00:33:55,990 --> 00:33:53,360
so

727
00:33:57,350 --> 00:33:56,000
there are other ben they're saying

728
00:33:59,669 --> 00:33:57,360
um

729
00:34:02,710 --> 00:33:59,679
they would put

730
00:34:04,070 --> 00:34:02,720
you know uaps or ufos that they're not

731
00:34:09,909 --> 00:34:04,080
going to be able to figure out because

732
00:34:09,919 --> 00:34:16,310
more or less

733
00:34:21,030 --> 00:34:19,109
11 reports of documented in documented

734
00:34:25,270 --> 00:34:21,040
instances in which pilots reported near

735
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:30,230
because one of those could be

736
00:34:30,240 --> 00:34:33,750
a crash

737
00:34:38,790 --> 00:34:36,710
currently lack data to indicate uap

738
00:34:40,790 --> 00:34:38,800
then they throw this in here like data

739
00:34:42,550 --> 00:34:40,800
to indicate uap are a part of a foreign

740
00:34:44,950 --> 00:34:42,560
collection program or indicative of a

741
00:34:48,550 --> 00:34:44,960
major technical advancement by

742
00:34:54,389 --> 00:34:51,190
so though

743
00:34:59,030 --> 00:34:56,950
it's just a lot of conflictions in here

744
00:35:00,230 --> 00:34:59,040
we continue to monitor for evidence of

745
00:35:01,990 --> 00:35:00,240
such programs given the

746
00:35:07,750 --> 00:35:02,000
counterintelligence challenge they would

747
00:35:12,150 --> 00:35:09,829
but again like all of this is really

748
00:35:16,630 --> 00:35:12,160
hard to digest when

749
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,390
none of this makes sense

750
00:35:24,230 --> 00:35:22,710
if they're all unexplained

751
00:35:25,670 --> 00:35:24,240
so

752
00:35:27,109 --> 00:35:25,680
i don't know maybe they're just trying

753
00:35:29,030 --> 00:35:27,119
their best i guess it's what they're

754
00:35:31,270 --> 00:35:29,040
working with they didn't have much time

755
00:35:34,790 --> 00:35:31,280
i know that

756
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:39,750
incidents

757
00:35:43,349 --> 00:35:40,950
okay

758
00:35:45,910 --> 00:35:43,359
a long-term goal so this is what we can

759
00:35:47,910 --> 00:35:45,920
try to expect from october widen the

760
00:35:50,390 --> 00:35:47,920
scope of its work to include additional

761
00:35:53,430 --> 00:35:50,400
uap events documented documented by

762
00:35:58,310 --> 00:35:53,440
broader swath of government personnel

763
00:36:02,630 --> 00:36:00,710
the initial focus

764
00:36:04,310 --> 00:36:02,640
will be to employ artificial

765
00:36:06,230 --> 00:36:04,320
intelligence and machine learning

766
00:36:07,990 --> 00:36:06,240
algorithms to cluster and recognize

767
00:36:09,430 --> 00:36:08,000
similarities and patterns and features

768
00:36:13,109 --> 00:36:09,440
of the data points

769
00:36:14,630 --> 00:36:13,119
i highlighted that because well a

770
00:36:16,069 --> 00:36:14,640
you know um

771
00:36:18,630 --> 00:36:16,079
you would think that this is going on

772
00:36:21,670 --> 00:36:18,640
right now right so they'll have some of

773
00:36:24,230 --> 00:36:21,680
this information for october

774
00:36:28,390 --> 00:36:24,240
and b this is like what avi lobe is

775
00:36:33,910 --> 00:36:30,150
he's using artificial intelligence and

776
00:36:37,030 --> 00:36:35,270
but not so much to recognize

777
00:36:39,190 --> 00:36:37,040
similarities and patterns and features

778
00:36:42,550 --> 00:36:39,200
of the data points but to find uaps

779
00:36:45,990 --> 00:36:44,150
oh here we go as the database

780
00:36:51,190 --> 00:36:46,000
accumulates information from known

781
00:36:55,510 --> 00:36:52,069
so

782
00:36:58,470 --> 00:36:55,520
differentiating between the two

783
00:37:02,310 --> 00:36:58,480
like avi says if he catches a high def

784
00:37:08,310 --> 00:37:02,320
picture of a bird he's got no problem

785
00:37:12,870 --> 00:37:10,790
then here we go at the end of the report

786
00:37:13,829 --> 00:37:12,880
majority uap data is from u.s navy

787
00:37:15,990 --> 00:37:13,839
reporting

788
00:37:18,069 --> 00:37:16,000
but efforts are underway to standardize

789
00:37:23,510 --> 00:37:18,079
incident reporting across u.s military

790
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,069
okay

791
00:37:30,630 --> 00:37:28,630
at least they admitted that

792
00:37:35,030 --> 00:37:30,640
that it's uh

793
00:37:39,109 --> 00:37:37,670
so i think some of this pressure that's

794
00:37:41,190 --> 00:37:39,119
being put on the air force by chris

795
00:37:43,990 --> 00:37:41,200
millen and and whatever

796
00:37:47,430 --> 00:37:45,190
you know

797
00:37:49,829 --> 00:37:47,440
for what they're working on now so maybe

798
00:37:52,310 --> 00:37:49,839
uh something in october can actually be

799
00:37:55,430 --> 00:37:52,320
more robust

800
00:37:57,510 --> 00:37:55,440
since they'll have all this stuff

801
00:37:59,510 --> 00:37:57,520
they're currently working to acquire

802
00:38:02,470 --> 00:37:59,520
additional reporting from the air force

803
00:38:05,750 --> 00:38:02,480
in the faa which is

804
00:38:10,150 --> 00:38:05,760
uh great

805
00:38:15,589 --> 00:38:12,390
for many reasons

806
00:38:18,630 --> 00:38:15,599
but they are all too used to

807
00:38:20,310 --> 00:38:18,640
many commercial drones and retail drones

808
00:38:21,990 --> 00:38:20,320
in those problems

809
00:38:23,829 --> 00:38:22,000
that they're dealing with

810
00:38:28,710 --> 00:38:23,839
so maybe they have a little bit more of

811
00:38:34,150 --> 00:38:30,790
air force data collection historically

812
00:38:40,150 --> 00:38:38,310
um six month pilot program november 2020

813
00:38:49,270 --> 00:38:40,160
but

814
00:38:50,710 --> 00:38:49,280
them on notice

815
00:38:54,550 --> 00:38:50,720
that they should be prepared for the

816
00:38:59,510 --> 00:38:57,030
the faa is able to isolate data of

817
00:39:01,670 --> 00:38:59,520
interest to the uap tf and make it

818
00:39:04,069 --> 00:39:01,680
available they also have a robust and

819
00:39:05,510 --> 00:39:04,079
effective outreach program

820
00:39:07,270 --> 00:39:05,520
that can help reach members of the

821
00:39:09,109 --> 00:39:07,280
aviation community

822
00:39:12,470 --> 00:39:09,119
to highlight the importance of reporting

823
00:39:16,390 --> 00:39:14,550
hopefully they play ball because

824
00:39:19,750 --> 00:39:16,400
obviously none of these reports are from

825
00:39:23,829 --> 00:39:21,349
they plan to update its current

826
00:39:26,470 --> 00:39:23,839
interagency uap collection

827
00:39:31,190 --> 00:39:28,630
so they plan to update it although

828
00:39:34,470 --> 00:39:31,200
something was put in place in 2019 which

829
00:39:36,550 --> 00:39:34,480
the air force adopted in 2020

830
00:39:37,670 --> 00:39:36,560
so they're updating it past

831
00:39:40,630 --> 00:39:37,680
that

832
00:39:43,750 --> 00:39:42,069
and then we have research and

833
00:39:51,030 --> 00:39:43,760
development

834
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:55,349
from sign to blue book

835
00:39:58,069 --> 00:39:57,030
research and development has always been

836
00:40:00,069 --> 00:39:58,079
a thing

837
00:40:01,829 --> 00:40:00,079
80-17

838
00:40:04,390 --> 00:40:01,839
was the last research and development

839
00:40:07,270 --> 00:40:05,510
um

840
00:40:09,270 --> 00:40:07,280
the one that even at the university of

841
00:40:13,430 --> 00:40:09,280
colorado worked under to put together

842
00:40:18,630 --> 00:40:15,030
i don't know if that's the same one i

843
00:40:22,069 --> 00:40:20,069
you know

844
00:40:24,390 --> 00:40:22,079
research and development was a pretty

845
00:40:25,670 --> 00:40:24,400
big deal what are you researching and

846
00:40:28,069 --> 00:40:25,680
developing

847
00:40:31,109 --> 00:40:28,079
if you don't know what anything is

848
00:40:35,380 --> 00:40:32,790
then a rundown of these little things

849
00:40:39,109 --> 00:40:37,349
[Music]

850
00:40:41,270 --> 00:40:39,119
range follower here's where we can tell

851
00:40:42,309 --> 00:40:41,280
this is the one thing that they

852
00:40:45,030 --> 00:40:42,319
um

853
00:40:48,309 --> 00:40:45,040
aren't specific about here

854
00:40:51,589 --> 00:40:48,319
is operating area restricted air space

855
00:40:54,630 --> 00:40:51,599
it's also a boat

856
00:40:56,950 --> 00:40:54,640
um i found a case online

857
00:40:57,910 --> 00:40:56,960
where a fishing boat

858
00:41:00,309 --> 00:40:57,920
was

859
00:41:01,270 --> 00:41:00,319
confused by the navy as a ranged fowler

860
00:41:03,030 --> 00:41:01,280
and they

861
00:41:05,430 --> 00:41:03,040
are

862
00:41:07,670 --> 00:41:05,440
was confused as a target

863
00:41:09,910 --> 00:41:07,680
and they like a target practice target

864
00:41:11,750 --> 00:41:09,920
and they were shooting at it

865
00:41:15,349 --> 00:41:11,760
but it was a range

866
00:41:18,470 --> 00:41:15,359
range followers of fishing boat

867
00:41:20,390 --> 00:41:18,480
not good that was a big deal

868
00:41:22,870 --> 00:41:20,400
submit intelligence assessment of the

869
00:41:24,470 --> 00:41:22,880
threat posed by uep in the progress

870
00:41:26,550 --> 00:41:24,480
the task force is made to understand

871
00:41:27,829 --> 00:41:26,560
this threat so here we go back to the

872
00:41:33,190 --> 00:41:27,839
threat

873
00:41:35,670 --> 00:41:33,200
by uap

874
00:41:37,270 --> 00:41:35,680
is made to understand this threat they

875
00:41:39,430 --> 00:41:37,280
don't say potential anymore they said

876
00:41:43,109 --> 00:41:39,440
potential one time every other time it's

877
00:41:43,119 --> 00:41:47,030
i found that interesting

878
00:41:53,589 --> 00:41:50,390
detailed analysis of data of the fbi see

879
00:41:54,390 --> 00:41:53,599
this is important because um when those

880
00:41:58,150 --> 00:41:54,400
um

881
00:42:00,550 --> 00:41:58,160
remember it like lax there was

882
00:42:05,030 --> 00:42:00,560
this guy on like a jetpack or whatever

883
00:42:08,150 --> 00:42:05,040
jetpack guy cruising through the planes

884
00:42:11,750 --> 00:42:08,160
at lax um well the fbi was the one

885
00:42:14,630 --> 00:42:11,760
investigating that so if you

886
00:42:16,470 --> 00:42:14,640
think about the faa

887
00:42:18,630 --> 00:42:16,480
which that would have been you know

888
00:42:21,190 --> 00:42:18,640
documented by the faa right and they get

889
00:42:24,790 --> 00:42:21,200
the fbi to investigate it so i would

890
00:42:28,550 --> 00:42:24,800
think all ufo incidents is more or less

891
00:42:29,750 --> 00:42:28,560
um that the faa gets maybe the fbi

892
00:42:32,069 --> 00:42:29,760
has

893
00:42:35,109 --> 00:42:32,079
the biggest hand in investigating those

894
00:42:39,510 --> 00:42:37,030
that's what we can expect from them i

895
00:42:42,230 --> 00:42:39,520
would think

896
00:42:44,069 --> 00:42:42,240
and uap may be attributed to one or more

897
00:42:47,030 --> 00:42:44,079
foreign adversaries identification of

898
00:42:49,510 --> 00:42:47,040
potential aerospace there are threats

899
00:42:54,950 --> 00:42:49,520
and an assessment of whether this

900
00:42:58,710 --> 00:42:56,309
so

901
00:43:03,990 --> 00:42:58,720
what can we expect for

902
00:43:07,349 --> 00:43:05,589
a lot

903
00:43:08,309 --> 00:43:07,359
they have a standardized reporting

904
00:43:09,430 --> 00:43:08,319
system

905
00:43:10,870 --> 00:43:09,440
um

906
00:43:12,950 --> 00:43:10,880
the air force

907
00:43:17,030 --> 00:43:12,960
should be contributing the faa will be

908
00:43:20,470 --> 00:43:18,180
and

909
00:43:23,030 --> 00:43:20,480
[Music]

910
00:43:25,670 --> 00:43:23,040
they have had a year of continued data

911
00:43:30,710 --> 00:43:25,680
collection right

912
00:43:35,670 --> 00:43:33,589
i expect i expect disappointment too but

913
00:43:38,710 --> 00:43:35,680
based on what they said

914
00:43:40,870 --> 00:43:38,720
in this report and what they put forth

915
00:43:43,430 --> 00:43:40,880
as what they're doing

916
00:43:48,470 --> 00:43:43,440
i guess we should be asking a lot versus

917
00:43:52,069 --> 00:43:50,230
they should have if they come back with

918
00:43:55,990 --> 00:43:52,079
the same kind of assessment of

919
00:43:57,910 --> 00:43:56,000
we don't know what these are

920
00:43:59,589 --> 00:43:57,920
we don't know if it's foreign or if it's

921
00:44:01,190 --> 00:43:59,599
ours or if

922
00:44:02,630 --> 00:44:01,200
whatever

923
00:44:06,470 --> 00:44:02,640
you know that's

924
00:44:08,069 --> 00:44:06,480
that's not acceptable at this point and

925
00:44:13,349 --> 00:44:08,079
it's not that i can go do anything about

926
00:44:18,230 --> 00:44:15,270
i hope congress

927
00:44:20,150 --> 00:44:18,240
is actually looking over

928
00:44:21,829 --> 00:44:20,160
this

929
00:44:23,750 --> 00:44:21,839
you know definitely in relation to that

930
00:44:26,550 --> 00:44:23,760
preliminary assessment because that kind

931
00:44:28,950 --> 00:44:26,560
of set what expectations should be like

932
00:44:30,870 --> 00:44:28,960
again if i was a boss of a company and

933
00:44:33,510 --> 00:44:30,880
somebody gave me that report and they

934
00:44:35,670 --> 00:44:33,520
were to put forth another report in the

935
00:44:38,630 --> 00:44:35,680
same time that we're discussing here i

936
00:44:40,150 --> 00:44:38,640
would expect those things to be done

937
00:44:42,150 --> 00:44:40,160
by the time that

938
00:44:43,829 --> 00:44:42,160
october report comes

939
00:44:45,589 --> 00:44:43,839
and to be documented

940
00:44:48,390 --> 00:44:45,599
and showed to me they were already

941
00:44:51,430 --> 00:44:48,400
picking up patterns

942
00:44:59,030 --> 00:44:54,790
that they didn't really tell us about

943
00:45:01,750 --> 00:45:00,150
you know

944
00:45:03,589 --> 00:45:01,760
at the very least i would expect more

945
00:45:11,510 --> 00:45:03,599
information on those patterns which

946
00:45:15,910 --> 00:45:13,430
more or less

947
00:45:19,349 --> 00:45:15,920
so but you know and i know it was super

948
00:45:21,270 --> 00:45:19,359
hard on it but that was the point

949
00:45:23,430 --> 00:45:21,280
the point was to be hard on it see the

950
00:45:26,710 --> 00:45:23,440
conflicts

951
00:45:30,630 --> 00:45:26,720
and not just you know sugarcoat it

952
00:45:34,630 --> 00:45:32,390
and you know i think it's very

953
00:45:37,670 --> 00:45:34,640
conflicting

954
00:45:40,390 --> 00:45:37,680
although i do stress

955
00:45:44,069 --> 00:45:40,400
that it is very good that we got one

956
00:45:48,950 --> 00:45:45,829
and they were unexplained in their

957
00:45:50,630 --> 00:45:48,960
maneuvers in there and all the ufo

958
00:45:55,030 --> 00:45:50,640
you know characteristics that we're used

959
00:45:58,790 --> 00:45:56,790
right

960
00:46:01,430 --> 00:45:58,800
and we got one and things are in motion

961
00:46:03,190 --> 00:46:01,440
and things are put in process

962
00:46:05,109 --> 00:46:03,200
to

963
00:46:08,870 --> 00:46:05,119
get a lot better

964
00:46:15,270 --> 00:46:09,829
so

965
00:46:18,550 --> 00:46:17,270
i would have sent them back to finish it

966
00:46:20,710 --> 00:46:18,560
well yeah it was a preliminary

967
00:46:25,750 --> 00:46:20,720
assessment you know they had to get it

968
00:46:29,270 --> 00:46:27,349
you know hopefully that's what they're

969
00:46:31,670 --> 00:46:29,280
doing now

970
00:46:33,750 --> 00:46:31,680
robert

971
00:46:35,349 --> 00:46:33,760
and i would assume so

972
00:46:37,030 --> 00:46:35,359
i hope so

973
00:46:38,950 --> 00:46:37,040
all right now

974
00:46:41,670 --> 00:46:38,960
it's time to

975
00:46:43,349 --> 00:46:41,680
flip the switch and go to unless anybody

976
00:46:45,349 --> 00:46:43,359
had any questions for me

977
00:46:47,109 --> 00:46:45,359
um i don't know you know what i could

978
00:46:49,030 --> 00:46:47,119
answer from you i'm not smarter than

979
00:46:54,870 --> 00:46:49,040
anybody else i just read from the thing

980
00:46:59,510 --> 00:46:57,030
um

981
00:47:00,710 --> 00:46:59,520
but you know if you have one i can try

982
00:47:08,470 --> 00:47:00,720
my best

983
00:47:12,390 --> 00:47:08,480
lighting thank you very much i

984
00:47:16,950 --> 00:47:13,990
all right so what we're going to do now

985
00:47:19,270 --> 00:47:16,960
is it's going to be triangle

986
00:47:21,430 --> 00:47:19,280
ufo special

987
00:47:25,510 --> 00:47:21,440
i have two

988
00:47:26,309 --> 00:47:25,520
videos in audio of triangle cases

989
00:47:29,829 --> 00:47:26,319
so

990
00:47:31,589 --> 00:47:29,839
let's get into it this is the first one

991
00:47:33,270 --> 00:47:31,599
god dang it i didn't write down where

992
00:47:36,710 --> 00:47:33,280
they were from

993
00:47:38,390 --> 00:47:36,720
so that may be a mystery sorry but

994
00:47:39,670 --> 00:47:38,400
here we go did you want to make a report

995
00:47:41,349 --> 00:47:39,680
yes okay

996
00:47:44,069 --> 00:47:41,359
okay first give us the description what

997
00:47:45,589 --> 00:47:44,079
you saw okay i didn't see it okay this

998
00:47:47,990 --> 00:47:45,599
has been reported to me this is the

999
00:47:50,230 --> 00:47:48,000
edgarmont police department yes okay in

1000
00:47:51,109 --> 00:47:50,240
edgar massachusetts yes

1001
00:47:53,750 --> 00:47:51,119
okay

1002
00:47:58,470 --> 00:47:53,760
briefly what she saw was uh she was

1003
00:48:03,990 --> 00:48:00,950
okay and a loud noise outside her house

1004
00:48:05,190 --> 00:48:04,000
at approximately uh

1005
00:48:07,349 --> 00:48:05,200
8 a.m

1006
00:48:09,670 --> 00:48:07,359
this morning sunday morning

1007
00:48:13,510 --> 00:48:09,680
okay she was embarrassed to report it

1008
00:48:15,670 --> 00:48:13,520
okay okay and um

1009
00:48:17,589 --> 00:48:15,680
she experienced she thought what was a

1010
00:48:20,390 --> 00:48:17,599
dream i don't know she explained the

1011
00:48:21,990 --> 00:48:20,400
phenomenon as uh she woke up with a pain

1012
00:48:23,990 --> 00:48:22,000
in her side

1013
00:48:24,870 --> 00:48:24,000
okay and then she noticed she had been

1014
00:48:26,710 --> 00:48:24,880
uh

1015
00:48:30,230 --> 00:48:26,720
i don't know if she had like a cut or

1016
00:48:31,910 --> 00:48:30,240
something on her chest area okay okay

1017
00:48:35,430 --> 00:48:31,920
and

1018
00:48:37,750 --> 00:48:35,440
her shoes were wet she didn't remember

1019
00:48:39,349 --> 00:48:37,760
leaving the house for the night

1020
00:48:41,910 --> 00:48:39,359
for some reason she walked up into the

1021
00:48:44,630 --> 00:48:41,920
area where she seen the light

1022
00:48:45,910 --> 00:48:44,640
and she's seen a triangular

1023
00:48:47,109 --> 00:48:45,920
i don't know what you'd call it i just

1024
00:48:49,750 --> 00:48:47,119
went up and looked at it with another

1025
00:48:53,430 --> 00:48:49,760
police officer i'd describe it as a

1026
00:48:54,950 --> 00:48:53,440
a area in the grass

1027
00:48:57,589 --> 00:48:54,960
with three

1028
00:49:00,309 --> 00:48:57,599
triangular

1029
00:49:02,470 --> 00:49:00,319
uh spots on the grass

1030
00:49:03,829 --> 00:49:02,480
impressions right it would be an

1031
00:49:06,150 --> 00:49:03,839
impression but it's not a deep

1032
00:49:07,750 --> 00:49:06,160
impressive grass is soft okay

1033
00:49:09,910 --> 00:49:07,760
it would be the grasses down in those

1034
00:49:13,030 --> 00:49:09,920
three spots and the grass is discolored

1035
00:49:13,910 --> 00:49:13,040
to a white color okay okay

1036
00:49:17,430 --> 00:49:13,920
um

1037
00:49:21,829 --> 00:49:17,440
we measured the spots they're all

1038
00:49:26,950 --> 00:49:24,230
the three of them yes and from center to

1039
00:49:28,829 --> 00:49:26,960
center measured it is exactly 10 feet 4

1040
00:49:31,589 --> 00:49:28,839
inches

1041
00:49:32,630 --> 00:49:31,599
okay um i did take some of the grass as

1042
00:49:34,549 --> 00:49:32,640
a sample i probably shouldn't have

1043
00:49:37,990 --> 00:49:34,559
touched it with my hands but i did

1044
00:49:42,630 --> 00:49:39,750
i'll be screaming

1045
00:49:46,390 --> 00:49:44,870
she reports that last night the next

1046
00:49:47,190 --> 00:49:46,400
night i guess it was the night after

1047
00:49:48,870 --> 00:49:47,200
this

1048
00:49:50,150 --> 00:49:48,880
would have been monday night she did see

1049
00:49:51,270 --> 00:49:50,160
in the sky

1050
00:50:01,670 --> 00:49:51,280
a

1051
00:50:03,190 --> 00:50:01,680
report him but

1052
00:50:05,670 --> 00:50:03,200
finally convinced her we took pictures

1053
00:50:10,549 --> 00:50:05,680
of the uh

1054
00:50:12,390 --> 00:50:10,559
discolorations and the grass and uh also

1055
00:50:14,390 --> 00:50:12,400
did the measuring of course now file

1056
00:50:17,910 --> 00:50:14,400
report here

1057
00:50:21,030 --> 00:50:19,510
and your number there okay and it's the

1058
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:21,040
agreement police department that's

1059
00:50:35,270 --> 00:50:22,810
e-t-r-e-m-o-n-t

1060
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:40,549
my question is what is nanu nanu

1061
00:50:40,559 --> 00:50:43,829
have you ever heard that

1062
00:50:48,950 --> 00:50:46,470
what what is nanu nanu i have no idea

1063
00:50:53,190 --> 00:50:48,960
what nano nano is

1064
00:50:55,430 --> 00:50:53,200
um hoping you guys knew but maybe not

1065
00:50:59,990 --> 00:50:55,440
all right next one this one i actually

1066
00:51:05,910 --> 00:51:01,829
oh it's a morgan mindy thing you guys

1067
00:51:10,630 --> 00:51:08,549
all right gotcha

1068
00:51:12,390 --> 00:51:10,640
i'm calling from plymouth north carolina

1069
00:51:14,230 --> 00:51:12,400
yes um

1070
00:51:17,270 --> 00:51:14,240
i don't i don't know what i do somebody

1071
00:51:19,430 --> 00:51:17,280
gave me this number but i saw

1072
00:51:21,829 --> 00:51:19,440
something spectacular in the sky last

1073
00:51:23,990 --> 00:51:21,839
night that i have no explanation for in

1074
00:51:25,990 --> 00:51:24,000
fact i'm sure as many as 50 to 100

1075
00:51:27,829 --> 00:51:26,000
people saw it in different areas last

1076
00:51:29,589 --> 00:51:27,839
night okay would you describe what you

1077
00:51:32,950 --> 00:51:29,599
saw okay

1078
00:51:36,390 --> 00:51:32,960
what i saw appeared not to have much of

1079
00:51:39,030 --> 00:51:36,400
a shape on one side it looked round

1080
00:51:40,870 --> 00:51:39,040
all right on the other side

1081
00:51:42,309 --> 00:51:40,880
of i couldn't tell you what shape it was

1082
00:51:43,349 --> 00:51:42,319
i just couldn't see it was such a dark

1083
00:51:44,390 --> 00:51:43,359
knight even though there were a lot of

1084
00:51:47,270 --> 00:51:44,400
stars

1085
00:51:49,670 --> 00:51:47,280
i'm sure it had as many as 20

1086
00:51:53,190 --> 00:51:49,680
pulsating red lights

1087
00:51:54,069 --> 00:51:53,200
one white light at the front of it

1088
00:51:56,950 --> 00:51:54,079
okay

1089
00:51:57,990 --> 00:51:56,960
when i stopped on the highway it also

1090
00:52:00,069 --> 00:51:58,000
stopped

1091
00:52:02,230 --> 00:52:00,079
all right i cut my car off to get out to

1092
00:52:03,030 --> 00:52:02,240
see if i could hear it i could not hear

1093
00:52:07,910 --> 00:52:03,040
it

1094
00:52:10,150 --> 00:52:07,920
else would come by and stop nobody did

1095
00:52:12,870 --> 00:52:10,160
the object stayed right there

1096
00:52:13,750 --> 00:52:12,880
i turned around and went back about a

1097
00:52:15,349 --> 00:52:13,760
mile

1098
00:52:17,750 --> 00:52:15,359
which is on a fairly straight stretch of

1099
00:52:19,589 --> 00:52:17,760
road into my mother-in-law's when i

1100
00:52:22,390 --> 00:52:19,599
pulled into her driveway i could still

1101
00:52:24,069 --> 00:52:22,400
see it i went in and got her to come out

1102
00:52:26,390 --> 00:52:24,079
and look at it she came out but she's an

1103
00:52:28,470 --> 00:52:26,400
elderly lady and she just could not see

1104
00:52:30,150 --> 00:52:28,480
it that far away i could still see the

1105
00:52:32,230 --> 00:52:30,160
pulsating red lights

1106
00:52:34,390 --> 00:52:32,240
okay i got her in the car but by the

1107
00:52:36,470 --> 00:52:34,400
time i got back on the highway the

1108
00:52:38,790 --> 00:52:36,480
object was gone all right we've had

1109
00:52:41,750 --> 00:52:38,800
people that reported seeing it in a

1110
00:52:43,510 --> 00:52:41,760
triangular shape we've had one lady two

1111
00:52:46,470 --> 00:52:43,520
ladies that have told us it appeared to

1112
00:52:49,030 --> 00:52:46,480
change shapes from oval to triangular

1113
00:52:52,549 --> 00:52:49,040
they all described it with pulsating red

1114
00:52:54,549 --> 00:52:52,559
lights and one big white light

1115
00:52:56,309 --> 00:52:54,559
we've had people that said it hovered

1116
00:52:57,589 --> 00:52:56,319
over their houses

1117
00:52:59,510 --> 00:52:57,599
um

1118
00:53:01,430 --> 00:52:59,520
when we've had one man that said it

1119
00:53:03,270 --> 00:53:01,440
appeared to follow him down the highway

1120
00:53:06,069 --> 00:53:03,280
i work at a radio station and we've had

1121
00:53:07,750 --> 00:53:06,079
lots of calls this morning about it

1122
00:53:09,510 --> 00:53:07,760
you don't have any you can't give me any

1123
00:53:12,230 --> 00:53:09,520
explanation we call cherry point which

1124
00:53:13,910 --> 00:53:12,240
is our nearest air force station and

1125
00:53:16,309 --> 00:53:13,920
they could give us no explanation

1126
00:53:18,309 --> 00:53:16,319
whatsoever they said that they had only

1127
00:53:20,069 --> 00:53:18,319
normal maneuvers going on last night in

1128
00:53:22,870 --> 00:53:20,079
our area okay now what time did that

1129
00:53:25,190 --> 00:53:22,880
occur i saw it at five minutes to seven

1130
00:53:27,430 --> 00:53:25,200
okay my husband saw it at quarter to

1131
00:53:29,990 --> 00:53:27,440
seven he was ahead he left the house

1132
00:53:32,710 --> 00:53:30,000
about 10 minutes ahead of me all right

1133
00:53:34,950 --> 00:53:32,720
he went six miles down the road all

1134
00:53:35,590 --> 00:53:34,960
right it circled over where he was and

1135
00:53:37,109 --> 00:53:35,600
came back

1136
00:53:39,990 --> 00:53:37,119
[Applause]

1137
00:53:42,390 --> 00:53:40,000
okay he also saw one of the flashing red

1138
00:53:45,510 --> 00:53:42,400
lights leave it

1139
00:53:48,069 --> 00:53:45,520
and go slam out of sight

1140
00:53:49,750 --> 00:53:48,079
when you stopped and got out of the car

1141
00:53:52,309 --> 00:53:49,760
can you estimate the distance between

1142
00:53:54,470 --> 00:53:52,319
you and the object at that point

1143
00:53:57,030 --> 00:53:54,480
okay

1144
00:54:00,790 --> 00:53:57,040
all right the radio station tower here

1145
00:54:07,349 --> 00:54:03,750
uh about 285 feet

1146
00:54:08,790 --> 00:54:07,359
uh i would say not much higher up than

1147
00:54:10,549 --> 00:54:08,800
that okay

1148
00:54:12,230 --> 00:54:10,559
and maybe it was i'm not a very good

1149
00:54:13,910 --> 00:54:12,240
distance person

1150
00:54:15,670 --> 00:54:13,920
you know especially

1151
00:54:17,270 --> 00:54:15,680
right it was just and i'm not good in

1152
00:54:19,910 --> 00:54:17,280
the daytime either

1153
00:54:21,190 --> 00:54:19,920
it was just i could tell whatever it was

1154
00:54:22,790 --> 00:54:21,200
was huge

1155
00:54:24,390 --> 00:54:22,800
okay if you feel it was within a city

1156
00:54:26,230 --> 00:54:24,400
block

1157
00:54:29,430 --> 00:54:26,240
no it was taller than that higher than

1158
00:54:33,510 --> 00:54:32,630
no it was farther tonight than that okay

1159
00:54:34,870 --> 00:54:33,520
okay

1160
00:54:35,829 --> 00:54:34,880
now uh how long did you watch it all

1161
00:54:37,589 --> 00:54:35,839
together

1162
00:54:39,030 --> 00:54:37,599
oh about three minutes

1163
00:54:42,230 --> 00:54:39,040
but we've had other people that watched

1164
00:54:48,309 --> 00:54:45,829
an abruptly abruptly cuts off there

1165
00:54:49,750 --> 00:54:48,319
unfortunately but that is a pretty

1166
00:54:53,030 --> 00:54:49,760
intense one

1167
00:54:55,589 --> 00:54:53,040
50 200.

1168
00:54:59,030 --> 00:54:55,599
that's a lot of people in north carolina

1169
00:55:00,870 --> 00:54:59,040
uh i would be very interested in hearing

1170
00:55:02,309 --> 00:55:00,880
uh more about that maybe we can look

1171
00:55:04,630 --> 00:55:02,319
into it

1172
00:55:07,349 --> 00:55:04,640
good comment from search psych home of a

1173
00:55:09,270 --> 00:55:07,359
famous abduction or two interesting

1174
00:55:12,549 --> 00:55:09,280
very interesting

1175
00:55:14,789 --> 00:55:12,559
um yeah because that lady

1176
00:55:17,990 --> 00:55:14,799
she was missing time

1177
00:55:20,470 --> 00:55:18,000
um als all sorts of stuff um

1178
00:55:21,910 --> 00:55:20,480
it's a very interesting case

1179
00:55:23,990 --> 00:55:21,920
so i wonder

1180
00:55:25,430 --> 00:55:24,000
maybe i can look into those and sit and

1181
00:55:27,430 --> 00:55:25,440
see if there's

1182
00:55:30,789 --> 00:55:27,440
any relative information to this

1183
00:55:35,670 --> 00:55:32,710
most definitely

1184
00:55:37,990 --> 00:55:35,680
so

1185
00:55:39,670 --> 00:55:38,000
oh come on robert you don't gotta piss

1186
00:55:43,109 --> 00:55:39,680
on everyone's parade with the balloon

1187
00:55:44,309 --> 00:55:43,119
eyewitnesses jesus man

1188
00:55:53,910 --> 00:55:44,319
man

1189
00:55:55,430 --> 00:55:53,920
you don't get

1190
00:55:56,710 --> 00:55:55,440
you're you know

1191
00:55:59,030 --> 00:55:56,720
when we're listening to these we're

1192
00:56:03,510 --> 00:55:59,040
basically the uap assessment

1193
00:56:08,309 --> 00:56:06,150
our sensors weren't designed

1194
00:56:16,390 --> 00:56:08,319
to tell the difference

1195
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:21,589
what the heck is that the heck is that

1196
00:56:21,599 --> 00:56:29,109
what the heck is the heck is that

1197
00:56:33,910 --> 00:56:30,710
what the heck

1198
00:56:35,829 --> 00:56:33,920
that is probably not i don't think we'll

1199
00:56:38,950 --> 00:56:35,839
ever find out what a lot of these are

1200
00:56:40,630 --> 00:56:38,960
but this one comes from a viewer uh

1201
00:56:42,470 --> 00:56:40,640
edmund star

1202
00:56:44,390 --> 00:56:42,480
um

1203
00:56:45,670 --> 00:56:44,400
pretty cool video he sent it to me via

1204
00:56:47,349 --> 00:56:45,680
twitter

1205
00:56:48,710 --> 00:56:47,359
so uh we're gonna play it i couldn't

1206
00:56:51,109 --> 00:56:48,720
really figure out how to make it full

1207
00:56:52,470 --> 00:56:51,119
screen unfortunately but i'm gonna do my

1208
00:56:54,870 --> 00:56:52,480
best here

1209
00:56:56,549 --> 00:56:54,880
so we can

1210
00:56:58,309 --> 00:56:56,559
check this out let me get my head out of

1211
00:57:01,190 --> 00:56:58,319
the way

1212
00:57:04,630 --> 00:57:01,200
all right

1213
00:57:09,510 --> 00:57:07,510
on parsons field at radford near

1214
00:57:11,670 --> 00:57:09,520
endstone in the county of oxfordshire

1215
00:57:13,750 --> 00:57:11,680
and it was on this field that the atv

1216
00:57:16,710 --> 00:57:13,760
today film unit were filming this

1217
00:57:19,270 --> 00:57:16,720
morning when at just before noon it was

1218
00:57:20,390 --> 00:57:19,280
noticed up in the sky flying from west

1219
00:57:22,549 --> 00:57:20,400
to east

1220
00:57:25,349 --> 00:57:22,559
was what can best be described as a

1221
00:57:28,710 --> 00:57:25,359
gleaming object leaving an intermittent

1222
00:57:31,109 --> 00:57:28,720
vapor trail and the speeds between

1223
00:57:33,510 --> 00:57:31,119
these vapor trails certainly caught our

1224
00:57:35,510 --> 00:57:33,520
attention and immediately everyone said

1225
00:57:37,030 --> 00:57:35,520
ufos well what does the film unit

1226
00:57:40,069 --> 00:57:37,040
themselves say about it now the

1227
00:57:41,910 --> 00:57:40,079
cameraman at the time was noel smart

1228
00:57:43,670 --> 00:57:41,920
what did you see now well first of all

1229
00:57:45,349 --> 00:57:43,680
we saw what appeared to be a very large

1230
00:57:47,670 --> 00:57:45,359
vapour trail much thicker than the

1231
00:57:49,510 --> 00:57:47,680
normal vapor trails and um when this

1232
00:57:51,190 --> 00:57:49,520
vehicle finished it stopped at a

1233
00:57:52,309 --> 00:57:51,200
straight line you know as opposed to

1234
00:57:53,349 --> 00:57:52,319
fading out

1235
00:57:56,230 --> 00:57:53,359
um

1236
00:57:58,789 --> 00:57:56,240
the object which was obviously circular

1237
00:57:59,990 --> 00:57:58,799
and an orange yellow color

1238
00:58:01,589 --> 00:58:00,000
seemed to

1239
00:58:03,829 --> 00:58:01,599
stop very slowly

1240
00:58:05,270 --> 00:58:03,839
and then very quickly after frame went

1241
00:58:06,870 --> 00:58:05,280
so quickly just couldn't follow it

1242
00:58:09,190 --> 00:58:06,880
seemed to be an amazing speed it really

1243
00:58:14,950 --> 00:58:09,200
was

1244
00:58:16,710 --> 00:58:14,960
couldn't possibly be not a jet not for

1245
00:58:18,470 --> 00:58:16,720
the vape patrol as thick as that

1246
00:58:20,870 --> 00:58:18,480
it was going so quickly you could just

1247
00:58:22,549 --> 00:58:20,880
couldn't follow it the um and when it

1248
00:58:24,870 --> 00:58:22,559
stopped it's absolutely dead and seemed

1249
00:58:26,069 --> 00:58:24,880
to hover for what 15 20 seconds probably

1250
00:58:28,150 --> 00:58:26,079
and then off she went again leaving

1251
00:58:29,829 --> 00:58:28,160
these fantastic vape patrols

1252
00:58:31,349 --> 00:58:29,839
chris fiores you are the production

1253
00:58:33,829 --> 00:58:31,359
assistant on the unit what drew your

1254
00:58:35,510 --> 00:58:33,839
attention to the thing in the sky

1255
00:58:37,910 --> 00:58:35,520
well first of all it was the vapor trail

1256
00:58:40,150 --> 00:58:37,920
which seemed to be suddenly appear

1257
00:58:41,910 --> 00:58:40,160
um the line in the sky before the vapor

1258
00:58:43,510 --> 00:58:41,920
trail actually appeared was also visible

1259
00:58:45,190 --> 00:58:43,520
so it looked as though it must have

1260
00:58:47,990 --> 00:58:45,200
passed overhead without us noticing it

1261
00:58:48,829 --> 00:58:48,000
at all but then the vapor trail itself

1262
00:58:51,349 --> 00:58:48,839
was

1263
00:58:53,349 --> 00:58:51,359
um may i say curly as as though the

1264
00:58:55,430 --> 00:58:53,359
object that was leaving it was in fact

1265
00:58:56,950 --> 00:58:55,440
spinning then looking at the object

1266
00:58:59,109 --> 00:58:56,960
itself you could see with the naked eye

1267
00:59:02,309 --> 00:58:59,119
that it was in fact spinning and orange

1268
00:59:04,309 --> 00:59:02,319
and round what do you think it was

1269
00:59:05,910 --> 00:59:04,319
um we've taught all of us the the the

1270
00:59:07,990 --> 00:59:05,920
unit of course we've talked about it we

1271
00:59:09,589 --> 00:59:08,000
all think that um what we would like to

1272
00:59:13,430 --> 00:59:09,599
say really is that we don't know what it

1273
00:59:15,750 --> 00:59:13,440
was so we call it a ufo

1274
00:59:18,390 --> 00:59:15,760
well there are opinions of two of the

1275
00:59:19,829 --> 00:59:18,400
unit all of us saw this and now you are

1276
00:59:22,150 --> 00:59:19,839
going to see it you are going to see

1277
01:00:26,390 --> 00:59:22,160
what we believe to be the first moving

1278
01:00:26,400 --> 01:01:09,430
and now you are going

1279
01:01:13,990 --> 01:01:11,430
hmm i don't know that

1280
01:01:17,750 --> 01:01:14,000
that's a pretty good one i think um the

1281
01:01:23,190 --> 01:01:20,150
it was

1282
01:01:26,390 --> 01:01:23,200
seemingly stationary

1283
01:01:27,829 --> 01:01:26,400
for a while before it took off vapor

1284
01:01:29,589 --> 01:01:27,839
trail i don't like to see the vapor

1285
01:01:32,789 --> 01:01:29,599
trail but you know

1286
01:01:34,549 --> 01:01:32,799
it's not that i haven't read cases on it

1287
01:01:37,030 --> 01:01:34,559
so

1288
01:01:39,030 --> 01:01:37,040
it's strange and like the lady said well

1289
01:01:42,789 --> 01:01:39,040
we call it a ufo because we don't know

1290
01:01:50,230 --> 01:01:46,309
can't beat that that's exactly right

1291
01:01:53,030 --> 01:01:50,240
um oak ridge vapor trail uh 1949

1292
01:01:55,029 --> 01:01:53,040
you

1293
01:01:59,510 --> 01:01:55,039
i think there was one in 49 there was

1294
01:02:01,589 --> 01:01:59,520
also one in 47 i believe two so

1295
01:02:04,390 --> 01:02:01,599
and i'm sure those aren't the only ones

1296
01:02:06,710 --> 01:02:04,400
44 i'm not sure that wouldn't be in

1297
01:02:09,589 --> 01:02:06,720
blue books i don't know

1298
01:02:15,029 --> 01:02:13,589
could very be it um i have

1299
01:02:18,630 --> 01:02:15,039
time for

1300
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:24,230
and we'll play it this one

1301
01:02:30,870 --> 01:02:27,109
we'll play this one um

1302
01:02:35,430 --> 01:02:32,870
decent but like i said this before too

1303
01:02:37,670 --> 01:02:35,440
like i'm always like um

1304
01:02:39,990 --> 01:02:37,680
desperately looking for

1305
01:02:40,950 --> 01:02:40,000
the videos shortly before we start the

1306
01:02:42,870 --> 01:02:40,960
show

1307
01:02:44,150 --> 01:02:42,880
that's like the last thing i look for so

1308
01:02:49,990 --> 01:02:44,160
any

1309
01:02:53,910 --> 01:02:50,000
videos that you want me to play on the

1310
01:02:55,829 --> 01:02:54,630
s

1311
01:02:57,190 --> 01:02:55,839
r a a

1312
01:03:00,309 --> 01:02:57,200
s c h

1313
01:03:04,870 --> 01:03:00,319
witness citizen dot com

1314
01:03:09,589 --> 01:03:07,430
because i am down

1315
01:03:12,309 --> 01:03:09,599
i'm down

1316
01:03:14,470 --> 01:03:12,319
all right here we go we have exclusive

1317
01:03:16,789 --> 01:03:14,480
at new york city ufo footage by the way

1318
01:03:18,069 --> 01:03:16,799
don't forget the thumbs up

1319
01:03:48,789 --> 01:03:18,079
like the video

1320
01:03:48,799 --> 01:03:55,830
ready

1321
01:04:12,549 --> 01:03:58,870
[Music]

1322
01:04:30,390 --> 01:04:13,910
looks interesting

1323
01:04:51,230 --> 01:04:32,549
i wouldn't put it on the news

1324
01:04:54,630 --> 01:04:52,549
[Music]

1325
01:05:04,470 --> 01:04:54,640
sure is long

1326
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:14,710
oh it changes a little bit

1327
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:23,370
we're gonna speed up this playback speed

1328
01:05:23,380 --> 01:05:31,910
[Music]

1329
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:38,309
well now the balloons are separating

1330
01:05:41,670 --> 01:05:40,150
yeah skipping forward

1331
01:05:51,190 --> 01:05:41,680
okay now there's more balloons now

1332
01:05:51,200 --> 01:06:00,710
still could be balloons i guess but

1333
01:06:10,630 --> 01:06:03,270
i don't know why they're talking so fast

1334
01:06:23,589 --> 01:06:13,109
that's balloony

1335
01:06:23,599 --> 01:06:28,230
finally someone's asking for the zoom

1336
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:37,670
but they're all looking at it

1337
01:06:42,710 --> 01:06:39,589
interesting

1338
01:06:45,190 --> 01:06:42,720
well i'll put this one

1339
01:06:47,430 --> 01:06:45,200
in here in case you guys want to check

1340
01:06:49,349 --> 01:06:47,440
it out

1341
01:06:51,750 --> 01:06:49,359
videos recorded by usaid

1342
01:06:53,270 --> 01:06:51,760
oh yeah base

1343
01:06:55,910 --> 01:06:53,280
everyone's talking fast a lot of weird

1344
01:06:58,069 --> 01:06:55,920
time stuff going on with these ufos

1345
01:07:00,390 --> 01:06:58,079
all right so i appreciate it i hope you

1346
01:07:01,750 --> 01:07:00,400
guys had a good time i had a good time

1347
01:07:03,750 --> 01:07:01,760
with you today

1348
01:07:05,029 --> 01:07:03,760
so thank you yeah put it in the great

1349
01:07:07,190 --> 01:07:05,039
box

1350
01:07:09,029 --> 01:07:07,200
with all the others right

1351
01:07:12,069 --> 01:07:09,039
i had a great time with you guys toby uh

1352
01:07:14,309 --> 01:07:12,079
paranormal pixie robert um

1353
01:07:16,309 --> 01:07:14,319
and josh surfside

1354
01:07:17,510 --> 01:07:16,319
marv

1355
01:07:20,150 --> 01:07:17,520
um

1356
01:07:23,589 --> 01:07:20,160
who else we got here

1357
01:07:27,670 --> 01:07:25,270
um

1358
01:07:29,190 --> 01:07:27,680
keep going

1359
01:07:31,430 --> 01:07:29,200
witness citizen

1360
01:07:34,870 --> 01:07:31,440
joseph

1361
01:07:37,750 --> 01:07:34,880
um tony awesome benjamin

1362
01:07:40,549 --> 01:07:37,760
some new names in here

1363
01:07:42,470 --> 01:07:40,559
josh everybody

1364
01:07:44,150 --> 01:07:42,480
hopefully i'm not missing anyone here i

1365
01:07:46,789 --> 01:07:44,160
really appreciate you guys eyes the

1366
01:07:49,670 --> 01:07:46,799
disguise diesel girl shelly

1367
01:07:55,109 --> 01:07:51,990
yeah cool lionel

1368
01:07:57,510 --> 01:07:55,119
everybody i appreciate you benji awesome

1369
01:07:58,950 --> 01:07:57,520
awesome to have you as always

1370
01:08:01,029 --> 01:07:58,960
so

1371
01:08:03,670 --> 01:08:01,039
tim f

1372
01:08:07,109 --> 01:08:03,680
glad to have you

1373
01:08:10,390 --> 01:08:07,119
arno awesome to have you glenn

1374
01:08:11,750 --> 01:08:10,400
thanks for joining from australia sweet

1375
01:08:13,270 --> 01:08:11,760
appreciate you

1376
01:08:14,470 --> 01:08:13,280
that's cool

1377
01:08:15,510 --> 01:08:14,480
very cool

1378
01:08:19,189 --> 01:08:15,520
um

1379
01:08:20,630 --> 01:08:19,199
i think that's just about lord bass

1380
01:08:23,669 --> 01:08:20,640
and

1381
01:08:25,910 --> 01:08:23,679
i don't know josh two josh's

1382
01:08:27,910 --> 01:08:25,920
okay 42 d

1383
01:08:28,870 --> 01:08:27,920
everybody i appreciate you jose

1384
01:08:31,189 --> 01:08:28,880
everybody

1385
01:08:32,950 --> 01:08:31,199
terry bradford what's up too much

1386
01:08:35,349 --> 01:08:32,960
information everybody thanks so much for

1387
01:08:36,829 --> 01:08:35,359
hanging out had a wonderful time with

1388
01:08:38,390 --> 01:08:36,839
you

1389
01:08:39,910 --> 01:08:38,400
and

1390
01:08:41,829 --> 01:08:39,920
i'm kind of finding a little bit of a

1391
01:08:43,349 --> 01:08:41,839
groove here which means i'll be off

1392
01:08:44,470 --> 01:08:43,359
tomorrow happy valentine's day to

1393
01:08:46,709 --> 01:08:44,480
everybody

1394
01:08:48,309 --> 01:08:46,719
um and i'll be back wednesday although

1395
01:08:50,709 --> 01:08:48,319
i'm not sure what's going to happen

1396
01:08:52,550 --> 01:08:50,719
wednesday we don't have any yes yet so

1397
01:08:53,430 --> 01:08:52,560
we will find

1398
01:08:55,430 --> 01:08:53,440
out

1399
01:09:07,469 --> 01:08:55,440
but until then

1400
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:56,709
[Music]